Sunday, February 26, 2006

Stuck In Time


David Crowley, Christopher Smitherman, and Catherine Barrett.

I wish I was making this up. Former Cincinnati Council Member Christopher Smitherman has a weekly radio show on 1480 WCIN. I've heard small portions before and tuned in today. Of all the things happening in this city and across the country, can you believe Smitherman was talking about the 2004 Cincinnati Police Department audit!? This guy is stuck living in the past.

Later, I heard Smitherman make a reference to Malcolm X and the need to be organized. Can anyone point to any organizational effort being led or supported by Smitherman?

While still on Council, Smitherman used to complain about the mainstream white press never asking him -- a financial planner -- about financial matters. I used to think he had a point. But, with the Banks deal being in the news, property tax appraisals being complained about, and all other sorts of financial problems facing our city, Smitherman picked an old, worthless, non-newsworthy police audit as his topic for today's show. Ridiculous!
NATE

Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld from Cincinnati Bell

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

Smitherman said on his show today that he was still going to use the title councilman because the people said he could. I have a question if the people said he could use the title of councilman then why didnt the people get out and vote for him so he couldve kept his seat and been a real councilman? By him saying that it made him look even stupidier than reliving that old tired subject of the police audit. You're a real american Nate.

Anonymous said...

Well Nate, it sure took you a long time to realize what people have been telling you all along. You just weren't getting it. A lot of the explaining was from white folks & I know how you like to disagree with them!

As long as 'CIN keeps giving this boy a forum, he's going to continue whining, crying & singing the blues. Maybe one day, he'll go psycho like he used to on a weekly basis downtown.

The only organizational effort being led by Smitherman at this point is his clean-up events. And he has his favorite neighborhoods. You won't see him in communities where there's say, 49% white faces. Oh no. Outside of that, people tell me he's doing the same old, same old - diddly nothing. So much for the Malcolm X getting organized blabber.

Smitherman is an accident, right around the corner, just waiting to happen. And I guess he's still scratching his ass, wondering why he wasn't re-elected. Hello, Smitherman? Is there anything there? He's so finished.

That Deborah Girl said...

So you're saying we should forgive and forget the wrongs CPD has done to the black community and all of Cincinnati when it comes down to it? 2004 wasn't that long ago. Heck the Ohio recount from the Presidential election was just finished a month or so ago and people are still protesting that.

I think the problem is that we tend to have media-Alzheimers. As soon as the next big story or cause du jour comes alone, everything else is marginalized or just plain forgotten.

I think the issue regarding CPD and those who monitor them is just as relevant a topic this second and tomorrow as it was in 2004. Just last week I wrote an article myself last week called "Why I Don't Trust CPD" which I sent to you Nate. Check it out and let me know what you think.

nazmaniac said...

What the hell is wrong with Smitherman? What exactly is he thinking? How can he expect to be a politician by pissing off every white voter in the city not to mention the entire CPD?
What he should've done is bought a notebook, labeled it "How to win an election" and followed Mark Mallory around taking notes.

nazmaniac said...

What the hell is wrong with Smitherman? Does he still not realize his political career is over? Does he still think he can win election by pissing off every white voter in the city, not to mention the entire CPD?
What he should've done is buy a notebook, labeled it "How To Get White Votes", and followed Mark Mallory around taking notes.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe that you don't think it's important to hold CPD accountable. I would like to know what an audit would turn up, but I'm just a concerned citizen.

Councilman Smitherman can talk about whatever he thinks is important on his show. He's certainly more organized than you.

I guess you don't think Malcolm X is relevant either.

Nate Livingston said...

Deborah

"So you're saying we should forgive and forget the wrongs CPD has done to the black community and all of Cincinnati when it comes down to it?"

Where did you get that from?! I'm saying we should spend our time on things that matter and result in change. What changes were made as a result of the 2004 audit? None. What good was it? None. It was a waste of time and money.

Smitherman never seemed to figure out how to be an effective legislator. He accomplished nothing during his term. And now, when he has a chance to discuss current events and issues, he decides to talk about the past. He can't even be an opinion leader.

"I think the problem is that we tend to have media-Alzheimers. As soon as the next big story or cause du jour comes alone, everything else is marginalized or just plain forgotten."

What does this have to do with the 2004 police audit?! What good does it do to continue discussing the 2004 police audit? I think the problem is that we have too many people who like to bitch and complain about shit but either don't know how to make changes or are too lazy to do that kind of work.

"...Just last week I wrote an article myself last week called "Why I Don't Trust CPD" which I sent to you Nate. Check it out and let me know what you think."

If I had an opinion of your article that I wanted to share, I'd have done it by now.

I'm not in the habit of letting people push their blogs and/or websites in my comment section, but, because I'm in a good mood today, I'll give you a pass.

Nate Livingston said...

Anonymous

"I can't believe that you don't think it's important to hold CPD accountable. I would like to know what an audit would turn up, but I'm just a concerned citizen."

How is Smitherman talking about an old audit holding CPD accountable? Talk is cheap. Smitherman was in a position to make a lot of changes and he came away virtually empty-handed. How did his term on Council make our lives better? Please point me to one piece of legislation introduced or supported by Smitherman that resulted in more CPD accountability.

"Councilman Smitherman can talk about whatever he thinks is important on his show. He's certainly more organized than you."

Ah, personal attacks to avoid the issue. Yes, Smitherman can talk about whatever he thinks is important on his show. And I can comment on his choice of topics. Perhaps the reason for Smitherman's and WCIN's low ratings is because of the people they have on air and their nonexistent understanding of radio.

"I guess you don't think Malcolm X is relevant either."

Smitherman isn't doing any of the things Malcolm X did. If the best you can do is play a tape of Malcolm X, then, yeah, I think it's a waste of time and an insult to their legacy.

That Deborah Girl said...

Actually, you don't have to give me jack. You could have not posted it and just emailed me back or ignored it altogether. No worries. Delete it if you wish. Sorry to be bothersome to you. My only point was that to some of us, CPD's actions, and the official reporting of those actions, is still important.

As long as CPD can depend on an "aw fagetaboutit" attitude then we may as well not ever monitor them all.

One of the best things I like about your site is that you are very good at pulling old history out of hat and tying it in to today's relevant events and drawing connections a lot of people don't see or have forgotten. It's painful to see you move in the opposite direction, mainly because yet again, you're pissed at someone you don't like or don't agree with.

Maybe it's time I took my link to your site down. No one reads my site anyway and I'm sure it doesn't matter much to you. Pity though. You and Jason are the main reasons I started a blog in the first place.

At least I've learned something today. There's nothing and nobody you won't insult just for the sake of doing so. I suppose I should have learned that long ago, just from reading here.

Anonymous said...

Nate-
I believe the reason Smitherman was talking about the 2004 audit is because there was corruption. He was a lone voice on that issue.

It is still relevant because no one has been held accountable. Did he try to make some noise while on council? Yes. It takes more than one council person to be able to change the status quo.

Talk is cheap and a good way to educate his listeners. I applaud Smitherman for his efforts though I haven't always agreed with him. Having said that, I applaud your efforts as well, though I often disagree with you.

Nate Livingston said...

Anonymous

"I believe the reason Smitherman was talking about the 2004 audit is because there was corruption. He was a lone voice on that issue.

It is still relevant because no one has been held accountable...."

I recently saw a special on PBS that said hundreds of Black people were lynched during reconstruction. No one has been held accountable for that. Let's suppose a member of Congress decided that they wanted to waste a little time (or a lot of time) ignoring the issues of today and wanted to spend their time talking about lynchings. Would that make sense to you?

Now what if the Congressman got kicked out of office and was given an informational radio talk show and thought the issue of lynchings should be discussed. Is that a good use of time? No.

You say Smitherman tried to make some noise while on Council and that it takes more than 1 Council person to change the status quo. Well, 1st there were four African Americans on Council. Are you telling me Smitherman was so ineffective that he couldn't convince his 3 sisters and brothers to join him in making change? Second, it's a copout to claim one member of Council can't get anything done. I watched Phil Heimlich single-handedly fight for and get the city to start "managed competition". I watched him get a federal investigation of the Genesis Redevelopment Corporation and force the city to hold up their funding for years. One person can get something done, they just have to know what they are doing. Smitherman doesn't and he was always too arrogant to take advice from anyone who could show him how to get things done.

If there's a problem with lynching in 2006, I don't want some guy talking loud about it on the radio, I want him providing leadership on how to stop them. Likewise, if corruption in the CPD is a problem in 2006, I don't want Smitherman on a small Black radio station preaching to the choir about how bad the problem is, I want to hear him providing leadership on how to get those involved investigated, prosecuted, and stopped.

Anonymous said...

How can you compare reconstruction to 2004? That's a poor argument. Hell, it's only March 1st 2006.

Corporate America was behind managed competition. You always falsely assume that people would support things based on the color of their skin. Sam Malone would be more likely to support Hiemlich's position before Smithermans.

If you want to see people held accountable and you have aradio show, it makes sense to talk about it.

Nate Livingston said...

Anonymous

Was corporate America behind Heimlich's push to get the Genesis Redevelopment Corporation investigated?

Anonymous said...

No, but that doesn't make Phil a saint. He just wasn't in on that scam. They are behind managed competition. Don't let your hatred of dirty David get in the way of seeing how filthy Phil is.

Smitherman didn't accomplish much, but at least he's honest.

Anonymous said...

Shalom! To Nate and anyone else, remember " we do not have to explain anything to these racist white people in this city, all they are about is negativity and we don't have time for that!!"

Nate all we can do is keep throwing this racist shit in their face and let them know we are aware of their activities however, we will not tell them what we intend to do.

Kemuel

Anonymous said...

Kemuel, you won't know your big black head from you're lil black balls boy! so why don't you take that racist shit you spew and go on back to africa!

Anonymous said...

"Are you telling me Smitherman was so ineffective that he couldn't convince his 3 sisters and brothers to join him in making change?"

Malone is in the pocket of white racists, Reece is aspiring to higher office, and I don't know what's up with Cole. It's like when she got rid of her braids she turned white or something. But my point is that none of them were willing to get behind anything that even appeared to benefit Black Cincinnati because they were only concerned about votes.

"I watched Phil Heimlich single-handedly fight for and get the city to start "managed competition". I watched him get a federal investigation of the Genesis Redevelopment Corporation and force the city to hold up their funding for years. One person can get something done, they just have to know what they are doing."


Phil heimlich knew what he was doing by being born with white skin and being born male. He also knew what he was doing when he attacked an organization run by black people that was trying to help black people. All you have to do is look at how much mileage all these white people are getting by accusing Barry Bonds of using steroids to know that attacking black people is the best way to boost one's career.

Robert